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Pork old IPA pronunciation - confused
The article in its current form states:
"The OED no longer lists "/pɔək/" as an alternative pronunciation in its third edition."
However there is no IPA guide to what that /pɔək/ should actually sound like. I tried looking it up, but the backwards-c symbol (ɔ) only appears together with a colon (ɔː) and not by itself.
There is no citation to this statement. Can someone please advise exactly how the "alternative", allegedly non-rhyming pronunciation of "pork" sounds? Thanks. EuroSong talk 17:51, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- It was uncited anyway so I've chopped that bit out. --Hillbillyholiday talk 08:02, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
The quoted reference for "pork" having no rhyme is from 1920. Anyone born after that time is "younger". OED has not listed that alternative pronounciaton for 30 years now. That's why few people have heard of it.
/ɔɪks/ and gulf-wolf
The words 'yoicks' and 'joiks' rhyme with 'oiks' and 'hoiks'. Should that be moved to the first section? Also, for speakers of some dialects (including my own), there is no distinction between /ʌl/, /ʊl/, and /oʊl/, so the words mentioned as having no rhymes, 'wolf' and 'gulf' actually rhyme, should this be mentioned? Thanks 2WR1 (talk) 18:09, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, see Wiktionary:Rhymes:English/ɔɪk. In my native dialect, gulf is pronounced /gʊlf/ to rhyme with wolf, and, in other dialects, I've sometimes heard wolf pronounced /wʌlf/, but the article specifies RP where these words are pronounced differently, so don't rhyme. Dbfirs 21:21, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
If one is going to have a section of words that have obscure rhymes, then one needs to define obscure. It's likely to include an arbitrary component, e.g. something like "only 'x' number of mentions in 'y' amount of time (or 'z' number of internet mentions)." That would seem fine to me -- even if adjusted over time, as we should anticipate. But obscure needs to be defined. Perhaps there's a shortcut -- dictionaries seem to use the term like they use the term, "archaic." So whatever standard the dictionary uses might suffice -- or use the dictionary itself, if not its standard (e.g.), "If the OED uses the word 'obscure' in its definition, then it's in this list." 2601:204:D200:7000:B98D:6F18:5782:CF5B (talk) 13:03, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Are there any words that rhyme with vozhd (note: the "zh" in "vozhd" is pronounced like the "s" in "vision", and the "o" in "vozhd" is pronounced like the "a" in "father") IsraeliEditor54 (talk) 08:49, 15 January 2023 (UTC)